ON THE PRETRIB RAPTURE

This post discusses the belief in resurrection and the return of Christ, contrasting scriptural references from Paul, Jesus, and John about the order of resurrection and rapture. It challenges the PreTribulation position, arguing that this belief lacks direct scriptural support and emphasizes relying on contextual interpretation rather than selective readings.

  1. Paul wrote that we who remain alive shall not precede those who have died in Christ.
  2. Jesus said that the dead will be raised “after the tribulation.”
  3. John, in the book of revelation places “the first resurrection” after the tribulation.

1 Thessalonians 4:

The Coming of the Lord

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord,[d] that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God.

And the dead in Christ will rise first.

 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Matthew 24:

The Coming of the Son of Man

29 “Immediately after the tribulation

of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and

they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 20:

4 (…) They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.

This is the first resurrection. 

So, the PreTrib believer denies that saying that yes, that is true, but we know there is a secret resurrection and the rapture before the first resurrection and before the tribulation…

Pushed for Scriptural proof, they provide selected verses (and pieces of verses) from the above quoted passages and add a bunch of verses that say God is good… When someone points out that none of the verses they have trimmed, reinterpreted and quoted without context actually say that there will be a PreTrib rapture, they tell us that we must read between the lines and understand that while God never said so, He certainly implied that the rapture would happen before the tribulation…

And then, they question our Christianity, our faith, and our sanity because we lack the gnosis needed in order to believe in a PreTrib Rapture…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

Why the Pretrib Rapture Fairytale?

Western Christians fear the Tribulation in ways that would baffle a Christian suffering persecution in the real world…

WHY AND HOW?

For many years, a very real website offered $5,000 US to anyone in the world who could produce a Scripture that spoke of a Pretrib Rapture. After more than a decade, they shut down the page with their money still in their pockets.

For almost as many years, I have asked for the same Scripture. I have received many Scriptures from people who told me that they were the answer to my request. Most of the Scriptures spoke to the goodness of God and a couple, at least on the surface, out of context and cleverly misinterpreted, almost seemed to support the idea…

Of course, when you read the paragraph before that verse and the paragraph after that verse, it becomes quite obvious that it says no such thing…

I cannot count the number of people who have told me that if I understood that God is good, the Tribulation is bad, and that we will follow the dead and ascend to meet Christ at his return… even though God never really spoke of a PreTrib Rapture, I would understand that He really meant to but that it somehow escaped his attention…

How did Satan sell this childish and silly doctrine? He gave the idea to a Jesuit Priest, who, writing under a pen name and pretending to be a converted Jew, put it in a book, written in Latin.

He then got a copy of the book into the hands of the very first Pentecostal preacher in England, who translated it into English and fell in love with the idea.

He then sent two Americans to England, C. I. Scofield, a would be Bible scholar, and D. L. Moody, an uneducated shoe salesman turned Evangelist.

Scofield twisted the Scripture and put the idea of a pretrib rapture in his Study Bible as if it were Bible truth.

D. L. Moody put it into his sermons, and terrified sinners flooded the altars… Suddenly, he was the most famous Evangelist in America. When pastors and other evangelists saw the numbers, they bought the doctrine… Biblical or not, it filled the pews and the offering plates…

More than that, sinners, terrified that they might be caught sinning at Christ’s sudden return and face the Tribulation, caught the dream…

Fear and wishful thinking are powerful motivational tools… Ask any evangelist…

It also helped that Christians in America had faced no (zero) persecution in several centuries… You fear what you do not know… You fear the Tribulation in ways that would baffle a Christian suffering persecution in the real world…

But that begs the question, why?

Very, very simple… If you can sell the church on the idea that they will escape the Tribulation, they will stumble into the Tribulation, frightened and unprepared… The chances that they will accept and worship the Antichrist and take his mark are increased ten thousand fold… You can rob God Almighty of the souls of the people He died to save…

When Americans tell me about the rapture, they tell me how bad the Tribulation will be. They might even suffer and be forced to die for Jesus!!!!! A loving God would never allow an American Christian to suffer like that! Yes, Paul and so many more suffered and died for Jesus… BUT THEY WEREN’T AMERICANS!!!!!

JESUS IS NOT RETURNING FOR A SINFUL, NASTY, UGLY, MESSED UP BRIDE, A BRIDE CONVINCED THAT HE DIED TO MAKE THEM RICH, HEALTHY AND COMFY IN BABYLON!!!!

BRIDE, MEET THE REFINERS FIRE!

DO NOT BE FOOLED…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

Lucifer’s Light: The Reality Behind Trump’s Rule

There is a dichotomy regarding Trump, he is either a savior or a deceptive figure representing Lucifer. You must not view him as a typical president, as doing so perpetuates a dangerous delusion. You are encouraged to maintain faith amid this spiritual challenge.

Trump is either God or the Antichrist…

You must decide what you will believe, but you cannot allow yourself to see him as simply another President, that is not an option.

This is supernatural…

This is the oldest game in the world… From Dark to Light… The Shining.

I will tell you that this is a devilish con job… You can ignore me, or argue with me, or shout from the housetops, telling the world that I am an evil liar…

None of that will change the facts… Trump is a Messiah, a Savior… He comes in splendor and light. He comes to save us!

But this is not the light of the God of Heaven… This is Lucifer posing as an Angel of Light… This is moving from the black night of Satan to the bright morning of Lucifer… This is a game, and if you believe it, you are damned…

But you have free will… You may choose to believe that God Almighty has sent a hard-faced, blasphemous, liar to save America in her sin, without repentance, and empower her to continue in her sin, raising her up so that she can rule the world… Feel free… I will not stop you.

This is the delusion, sent from God, to cause those who love pleasure more than they love righteousness to believe the lie.

This is the deception that threatens even the Elect of God…

I have always known that the remnant would be small. The remnant is tiny beyond belief… If you understand my words, congratulations, you are part of that tiny group of Christians who love Jesus more than they love life itself…

Sleep well tonight, get up in the morning, pick up that ugly, splintered, wooden cross and keep dragging it up that hill… There is Glory on the other side of Calvary…

For the rest of you, please enjoy your moment… bask in the glorious light of Lucifer… Applaud and uphold his Messiah… This is your time to shine!

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

Apophis and the Antichrist: A Prognostication

The scenario presented imagines Donald Trump as the Antichrist during the end times. It portrays a timeline where he initially appears as a savior, leading to a false sense of peace before revealing his true identity. The narrative suggests widespread calamities, Christian persecution, and a cataclysmic event involving Apophis by 2029.

Possible:

Let us call this scenario neither optimistic nor pessimistic, simply probable…

Whatever you believe, let us assume, for the purposes of our little thesis, that Donald J. Trump is the Antichrist, we are in the end times, the Tribulation has or soon will start, Apophis will strike in 2029, and the return of Jesus is imminent. If these things are not true, this scenario would seem much less likely.

So many see the Antichrist as coming on the scene as a terrible man and his coming as bringing instant death and destruction. Quite the contrary, 2 Thessalonians tells us that he comes on the scene with false miracles and all the power of Hell. He is not, at the start, an overwhelming dictator, rather he is a hero, a messiah, a savior…

It seems that Christians are predicting that everything is going to fall apart and we are all going to die in 2025. I find that highly unlikely. it is three and one half years after his inauguration that he shows himself for who he really is…

I think that perhaps as late as the end of 2026, Trump will maintain his American Hero status… He will cow the world into subservience and life in America will appear to be headed back to the innocence and abundance of a 1950’sAmerica… The Christian Patriots will look on those of us who have called Trump the Antichrist and call us fools…

Peace and prosperity will reign, Israel will be divided, a Palestinian State proclaimed and a magnificent temple built on the Temple Mount… Daily sacrifices will be observed for the first time in 2,000 years.

The very close passing of Apophis will be admitted and the world will come together to fight this common enemy of all mankind. Trump will take the lead on the world stage. While he orchestrates disease, death and famine, he will appear to be fighting them. War and plague will diminish the world’s population… Still, Trump will be the hero fighting all of these enemies, taking control…

Bible believing Christians will not take the Trump Mark and the persecution will begin. Christian Patriots will stand in front of television cameras and flood social media with photos of the Trump Mark on their hands…

At some point, America will burn, Babylon will be destroyed… Trump will survive and move his New World Government to Israel. In the Fall of 2028, 42 months following his return to power, there will be a dedication service at the new Temple in Jerusalem… Trump will, at the ceremony, live on Worldwide Television, take his seat in the Holy Place, unveil an image of himself, and declare himself to be God Almighty…

It is on that day that Jew and Cultural Christian will finally figure out who he really is… It will be too late.

Then comes Apophis, the death of one third of every living thing on earth, and the Wrath of an angry God…

I am not claiming to be a prophet… This is a prognostication, not a prophecy… This is “Thus thinkith David”, not “Thus saith the Lord”

None the less, I do believe that this, likely with some modification, is what is about to play out on the world stage…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

The Devil’s Reign: What Revelation Teaches Us About Our Future

The Good news is that, from an eternal perspective, the saints win…

The bad news is that from the perspective of this world and this life, they lose.

If I told you that the Devil and his messiah will make war with the saints of God and that he will win, many of you would call me a liar…

That is because you neither read nor understand your Bible…

Those of you raised on the Happy Gospel are much to be pitied… You have no idea of what has happened, nor what is about to happen… You only know the Happy verses and the Happy Promises… the other 90% of the Scriptures remain a great mystery to you…

The Good news is that, from an eternal perspective, the saints win…

The bad news is that from the perspective of this world and this life, they lose.

There remains a full number of martyrs yet to be slain…
Revelation 6:10 They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

Prison, suffering and death await the Saints of God…
Revelation 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

10 If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

Satan is the god of this world… Adam gave him that title and God honors that title. Satan will, for a brief time, become the absolute ruler of this earth… his beast and his messiah will reign unopposed.
Revelation 13:7b He was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.

The idea that Christ will rapture the church before that time is the Devil’s dream doctrine… the less prepared you are, the more likely that you will fall and that the devil will get your eternal soul…

Yes, we go to Heaven. Yes, we return to reign with him. In the meantime, prepare your heart so that you will endure to the end and be saved…

I do not care what you learned in church, Bible College, or Seminary… Jesus said that it is he who endures to the end who will be saved…. I know that the words of Jesus contradict the presumptions of your doctrine… Live with it!

All Hell is about to break out on earth… You, my Christian friend, are an enemy of the New World Order… You will face the consequences born by those on the losing side… You will be given the opportunity to renounce Christ and live…

If your hope is in this earth, you are damned… If your hope is in Heaven with God, You will live eternally with him.

While the false prophets are still promising victory in this world, remember these words…

Jeremiah 14:14 But the Lord said to me, “These prophets are prophesying a lie in My name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a false vision, worthless divination, the deceit of their own minds.

And…

Lamentations 2:14
Your prophets saw visions for you
that were empty and deceptive;
they did not reveal your guilt
and so restore your fortunes.
They saw oracles for you
that were empty and misleading.

PRAY THINK PRAY

David…

DEATH BY PROPHECY

The last thing you want to do is to stumble blindly into the Great Tribulation, still staring at the ceiling of your church every Sunday morning, waiting for Jesus to snatch you up..

I am certain that they meant well…

I want to believe that the prophecy teachers of the past meant well… they took the Scripture they knew and imagined a world in which those things could happen…

We believed them…

They were wrong!

The god of this world has used those teachers and teachings to blind the eyes of millions who are now so convinced that they know the truth that they refuse to think… Why would you think when you already know it all?

How could they have understood the world in which we now live? It would have been impossible, had they actually been willing to consider the truth… But even then, the truth was too painful to consider…

They had the Bible. Even then, there was no nation on earth, other than the United States of America, that fit the physical, moral and spiritual description of Babylon given in Revelation chapter eighteen… But the idea that America could be evil, or that its founders might have been evil Master Masons, committed to the ancient pantheon of gods was untenable and impossible to consider…

The idea that God, the God who took Noah through the flood, Daniel through the Lion’s Den, the Three Hebrew Boys through the fire and all Israel through the Babylonian Captivity, would allow us to go through the Tribulation was an evil and nasty thought… No, America would still be a great Christian Nation, and long before any American Christian had to suffer, Jesus would come on a Sunday morning and rapture all of the American Christians out of the service… snatching them from their air conditioned comfort and taking them to Heaven!

That, of course, is not biblical, but how can you sell a book that speaks of God protecting us in and through the Tribulation? No book that even suggested that America was not God’s Special Project, or that George Washington was not a Christian Saint would have sold the first copy!

So they made up a lot of stuff… It is those who believed that stuff the most who are totally blinded to what is really happening.

If you are still a firm believer in the scenarios presented in THE LATE GREAT PLANET EARTH, the LEFT BEHIND series, or any of a thousand other books coming out of that era, you need to honestly pray that God Almighty will remove Satan’s blinders from your eyes and allow you to make real connections between the Scripture and today’s news…

The last thing you want to do is to stumble blindly into the Great Tribulation, still staring at the ceiling of your church every Sunday morning, waiting for Jesus to snatch you up..

PRAY, THINK, PRAY, AND THINK SOME MORE…

THE BARE,UGLY, NASTY AND UNPLEASANT TRUTH IS BETTER THAN THE SWEETEST, HAPPIEST, MOST JOYFUL LIE EVER TOLD..

David…

IF HARRIS HAD WON…

Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

If Harris had won, it would have been much better for the church…

Not that life would have been better… The economic collapse and loss of freedom would have been rapid and terrible…

With Trump, life in America will get better in an almost miraculous manner and at an awesome pace… If you are in it for the cushy comfort, Trump is your candidate… For a very short time.

Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

It is worse for Christians and the church because Trump can deceive, and has deceived millions of Christians. Trump’s victory has already lulled most of the church back to sleep… “No worries now, our new messiah has won, America is safe, and my retirement is secured!!!”

Trump possesses every single biblical qualification for the Antichrist… His lies are believed, without question, by Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus everywhere… Whatever your religion, Trump is your hero!

I have articulated, in a hundred articles, and a thousand Facebook posts, exactly why Trump fits the role of Antichrist to a “T”. The primary reason being his supernatural ability to deceive Christians and cause them to turn a blind eye to all of his sins and weaknesses…

It is very much like the one who keeps a kidnaped kid quiet by feeding him candy… American Christians are so sold on America and their cushy lifestyles that not even the threat of Hellfire can shake their faith in anyone who would promise to save the nation and keep them from testing, trials, suffering, and death…

Trump is popular for exactly the same reason Benny Hinn became a billionaire. Benny promised money, healing and prosperity. Trump offers money, freedom, prosperity, peace, and a life of leisure… Christians line up, begging for the bait and swallowing the hook with great gusto!

No, life under Harris would not have been cushy… but Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

David…

SHOCK AND AWE

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

Matthew 24:

21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1 Thessalonians 4:

15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Revelation 20:

Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.

THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION. 

Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

David…

STAR WARS INVERTED

There is a war in the Heavens. The “Good Guys” are the ones who live in absolute obedience to the will of their Creator. The “Bad Guys” are the “Freedom Fighters.”

STAR WARS INVERTED

Satan twists everything. The Star Wars movies are a perfect example. If you understand how the Devil twists all of reality, you can undo and reverse engineer those movies. The “Good Guys” are Lucifer’s Team and the “Bad Guys” are Jehovah’s Team. All this is from Lucifer’s point of view of course. Team Jehovah is not cruel except in the view of the Devil who has lost the rebellion he started… Lucifer sees Freedom from the Law as good and obedience as bad. If Jehovah were to do those movies, Obedience would be good and rebellion bad.

Let me briefly lay out a synopsis of where we are and what to look at… You must pray, think and study… I cannot do that for you.

There was a time when everything was perfect. God created angels and creatures. He wanted them to love him in truth. Without free will there can be no love. Apart from free will you can have obedience and servitude, but you cannot have love if there is no alternative. You cannot kidnap me, hold me hostage and force me to love you; it does not work that way.

Lucifer was the Covering Angel, the Crown of God’s Creation. It is interesting to note that the Ark of the Covenant is now covered by two Angels, not one. Perhaps this is to keep them from being lifted up in the pride and arrogance that overtook Satan. Satan was lifted up with pride, he chafed at the absolute obedience that Jehovah demanded and thought that he could do better. Because he had free will, he chose to rebel. All the Angels had free will. Two out of three Angels chose to stay with Jehovah, one third of them chose to follow Lucifer in his rebellion.

The war in the stars was started…

The Garden of Eden was perfect. Adam and Eve were perfect. Because there is no love apart from free will, God planted one tree in the middle of the Garden and forbid them to eat of it. As far as I can tell, that was the only rule. Not eating from that tree proved their love for God was genuine. Adam and Eve were happy and contented. The Devil’s people, today, will tell you that Adam and Eve were prisoners of God, locked in the Garden… Lucifer, they insist, liberated them… Lucifer still sees rebellion as good and disobedience as proof of freedom.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness was the lie that caused Lucifer to fall and it was at the heart of the temptation of Adam and Eve. To be like God, making your own decisions, seeking after your own desires, to be free from the control of another… This is a powerful enticement. The Illuminati, under the leadership of Lucifer, used that lie to mislead American Christians and bring them under a satanic government. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is the goal of every rebel, everywhere. It was Lucifer’s goal and Eve’s passion.

In Christ, we are free to obey our Creator. In Christ we are free from Rebellion and sin. Happiness is found in Christ alone. Paul called himself a “Slave of Christ.” Jesus commanded us to deny ourselves, take up our crosses and follow him.

Americanism teaches freedom from God. You are free to slaughter your own child and offer the blood as a sacrifice to Baal. You are free to seek sexual gratification with an unmarried partner or a same sex lover. Even now, they are fighting in the courts for freedom to have sex with children and animals… You are free to make tons of money, buy huge houses, shiny cars and store up enough money to feed an entire nation for a year… Happiness is found in rebellion, things and money.

There is a war in the Heavens. The “Good Guys” are the ones who live in absolute obedience to the will of their Creator. The “Bad Guys” are the “Freedom Fighters.”

No, you do not have to believe me… That is not required. However, I will promise you that real happiness is found, not in rebellion but in obedience and conformity to the will of our Creator…

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness is the motto Of the Kingdom of Babylon and the promise of its god…

Obedience, a cross, and self-denial is the motto of the Kingdom of God and the will of its God.

Where are your feet planted? Where will you spend eternity?

David…

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