Who Are the Bene Elohim?

Some would still prefer to believe a forced humanistic, but not so rational fairy tale than to accept the Bible as the Word of God…

I had an evidently well trained Rational Theologian arguing the Sethite theory of Genesis 6 and insisting that the Nephilim in the Bible were produced when the good men of Seth forced themselves on the wicked women of Cain and that their offspring was simply more evil than others and fear of them caused the people to exaggerate…

Numbers 13:33 “There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

According to him, the giants in Numbers 13:33 were just evil men and the Bible was in error and the spies were exaggerating out of fear. The Bible also lied and exaggerated the size of Og’s bed and the stature of Goliath…

I Pity the Rational Christian who has been taught to explain away the supernatural and force illogical and humanistic interpretations on Scripture.

So the “Good” sons of Seth slept with the “Evil” women of Cain and that union produced people so evil that the fear motivated people exaggerated and called them giants?

Really?

The only reason you would insist on that idea is that you refuse to accept the supernatural.

Job 1: 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.”

The Sons of God in Genesis 6 are the same Sons of God found in Job…

To believe that fallen angelic beings mated with human women and produced a race of giants and superheroes makes sense… You have good human men forcing themselves on evil human women and producing the Nephilim who were so evil that the writers of Scripture exaggerated and called them giants.

First of all, if they were good, why did they take evil wives? Secondly, What would make the progeny of Seth and Cain more evil than either of the purebred races? That makes no sense at all and only a person well-schooled in rational theology could even imagine such a fairy tale…

Yet some would still prefer to believe a forced humanistic, but not so rational fairy tale than to accept the Bible as the Word of God…

David…

Security of the Believer

There are verses that speak to the security of the believer. There are also verses that speak of losing your Salvation.

Calvin would tell me to trash, undercut, explain away or ignore every passage that speaks of losing your salvation.

Arminius would tell me to trash, undercut, explain away or ignore every passage that speaks to the security of the believer.

Having seen through the foolishness of both sides, I choose to understand that the believer is neither so secure as Calvin would have me to believe, nor on such shaky ground as Arminius would lead me to believe.

The truth is that Scripture speaks both to the security of the believer and to the very real possibility of losing your Salvation.

The same bible that quotes Jesus as saying, “No one shall pluck them out of my hand.” Says “You have been severed from Christ… you have fallen from grace.”

The same Bible that says, “you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise”, says “Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.”

Both Calvin and Arminius chose to trash bible passages that disagreed with their preconceived theses… “This I believe, this I will prove, where is my Bible?”

The Calvinist chooses to accept Calvin as his authority and to force all Scripture to agree with Calvin’s hypothesis. The Armenian accepts Arminius as his authority and forces all Scripture to agree with Arminius’ presuppositions. The Christian says “God speaks both to the security of the believer and the possibility of losing one’s salvation…” “Is there Scripture,” he asks, “that explains how the believer, who cannot be snatched out of Christ’s hand and has been sealed by the Holy Spirit should fear and tremble lest they be severed from Jesus and fall from grace?”

Of course, there is… but both Calvinists and Armenians flatly reject all Scripture that might even possibly resolve the conflict. It seems that their hero and the founder of their sect is far more important than God, Jesus and Scripture combined…

Yet Paul’s insisted that those believers who had come to trust in their own obedience to the Law for justification, had been severed from Christ and had fallen from grace. You cannot fall from where you are not, neither can you be severed from that to which you are not attached. Nor can you pretend that one who has been severed from Christ and has fallen from grace is saved and going to Heaven.

Both Calvin and Arminius seem to have believed that the loss of salvation would be centered on sin. In this, Calvin, who insisted that one was not saved by ceasing to sin and therefore could not be lost by committing sin was correct. Arminius, who seems to have believed that one is lost every time they sin and saved again every time they repent was wrong. I am most certainly a Christian and not a Calvinist, but on this point, Calvin got it right.

Galatians 5:4 addresses a particular group of people, those who “are seeking to be justified by law”. Had they fallen from grace and been severed from Christ because of sin? No. They were now lost, because they no longer believed. The faith God had given them was removed from Christ and placed in their own ability to follow the Law.

We are saved “by grace through faith in the Son of God” We are not lost when we sin and resaved when we repent. That is unscriptural. However, if we withdraw our faith from Jesus and place that faith in anything else. The Law, our own righteousness, not eating pork, going to church on the Sabbath, Calvin, Arminius, the Pope, or Donald Trump… We are lost.

Both the Calvinist and the Arminian reject this Scriptural truth, but Christians see it, accept it and rejoice in it…

Think about it…

David…

Undoing Babel

It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. (Revelation 13:7)

“Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them…” —Jehovah God

Apostle or Roman Agent?

Joseph Shellim commented on my post, “Paul’s quote is pointless, clearly indicating he was a Roman agent…”

Joseph Shellim commented on my post, “Paul’s quote is pointless, clearly indicating he was a Roman agent. Everything is created by God [Gen.1/1]. Paul’s attempt to fulfill away the laws of God marks the single greaest failure in biblical history. The Romans and Christianity also failed this attempt, to the extent not a single Christian country can stand without the Hebrew laws. Even God cannot change His covenant and laws, because God is Truth.

Ps 105/8 He hath remembered His covenant forever, the word which He commanded to a thousand generations; 10 And He established it unto Jacob for a statute, to Israel for an everlasting covenant.”

To which I replied, “And you sir, are a Hell bound pagan, having rejected the Word of God.”

His is however, the logical end to the beliefs of the legalist and Judaizer… You cannot believe that Paul was an Apostle and at the same time insist on placing gentile Christians under the Law… Every Hebrew Roots believer, Legalist and Judaizer will eventually be forced to either trash their doctrine or make Paul a reprobate… There is no other honest choice…

I once had a Hebrew Roots “Pastor” send me a 4,000-word essay on why Paul was not an Apostle and it was only by a Roman Catholic plot that his books were included in the Bible… Seriously, that is the only… the very only answer that one can come up with that can possibly justify the attempt to place Christians under the law of Moses…

You cannot believe that Paul was an Apostle and his writings are the Word of God and believe that Christians are forbidden to eat pork and shellfish and that they are required to go to church on Saturday… That is an oxymoron on steroids…

But none, absolutely none of the Judaizers will accept that they are bound by the whole law. They are bound only to dietary laws and the Sabbath… The rest of the Law can and should be ignored… You cannot preach that with Paul’s Epistles in your Bible…

I wrote, “While you are enforcing Leviticus 11, why not enforce Leviticus 15? Who gave you permission to enforce one chapter and ignore the rest of the book? When you come into full compliance with all of Leviticus, I might even listen to that garbage you selectively pick out of a single chapter… You are going to insist that rules regarding food are still in force but rules concerning blood are trashed? Good luck explaining that one to God!

Leviticus 15:19 ‘When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. 20 Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening. 22 Whoever touches any thing on which she sits shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening. 23 Whether it be on the bed or on the thing on which she is sitting, when he touches it, he shall be unclean until evening. 24 If a man actually lies with her so that her menstrual impurity is on him, he shall be unclean seven days, and every bed on which he lies shall be unclean.

25 ‘Now if a woman has a discharge of her blood many days, not at the period of her menstrual impurity, or if she has a discharge beyond that period, all the days of her impure discharge she shall continue as though in her menstrual impurity; she is unclean. 26 Any bed on which she lies all the days of her discharge shall be to her like her bed at menstruation; and every thing on which she sits shall be unclean, like her uncleanness at that time. 27 Likewise, whoever touches them shall be unclean and shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening. 28 When she becomes clean from her discharge, she shall count off for herself seven days; and afterward she will be clean. 29 Then on the eighth day she shall take for herself two turtledoves or two young pigeons and bring them in to the priest, to the doorway of the tent of meeting. 30 The priest shall offer the one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. So the priest shall make atonement on her behalf before the Lord because of her impure discharge.’

31 “Thus you shall keep the sons of Israel separated from their uncleanness, so that they will not die in their uncleanness by their defiling My tabernacle that is among them.”

So throw out 80% of your New Testament and declare Paul a reprobate or throw out your Demon Doctrine that forces that decision down your throat…

David…

 

 

GOD AS THE AUTHOR OF EVIL

“The way that people are misusing this verse would make God the executioner of seven million Jews under his man Hitler, and twenty million Christians under his appointed king Stalin.”

Daniel 2:21 “It is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings…

The way people rip this single verse out of context and use it in ways contrary to the record of the whole Bible is amazing… People use this verse in a way that makes God directly responsible for every evil thing done by every king who ever lived…

This verse, ignored while Obama was president, is now being used to lift up and support Trump as God’s man on earth and the savior of America and all things American…

The way that people are misusing this verse would make God the executioner of seven million Jews under his man Hitler, and twenty million Christians under his appointed king Stalin.

God complains about the Kings of Israel and says that they, not He, were to blame for the fall of Jerusalem. If He sets up every king and deposes of all the bad ones, He alone is responsible for all of the evil done by every king who ever lived…

You cannot build a doctrine or base your beliefs on a single verse ripped out of context… That is a deadly error…

This is a war. Kings are ruled and used by Satan in his attempt to overthrow Jehovah God and retain his position as god of this world…

That verse must be compared with the rest of Scripture and its meaning defined by the massive weight of Scripture that opposes the particular weird and strange interpretation that is being forced upon it by Trumpettes, Trumpites, and the other Christianesque peoples of this land…

David…

 

MIXTURE: The Babylonian Gospel

The Babylonian Gospel and mixture is the only message I ever heard. Even five years ago, if you had asked me to tell you what I believed, much of what I told you would have had its roots in Baptist Denominational Distinctives, the Masonic Religion and the Great American Lie. Even after years abroad, where I was confronted by a Gospel not mixed with American Patriotism, much of what I believed was more American than Christian.

My Grandfather was a 33rd Degree Mason and a “Lifetime Deacon” at First Baptist Church in West Palm Beach, Florida. I do not know how many of the men on that board were Master Masons, but I would imagine that it was a clear majority. This was an upscale church… a church where the Rich and Famous could feel at home.

It was my Grandfather and his Masonic buddies who planned the new Sanctuary as a Greek Temple, designed and built with strict Masonic Architecture…

We would sing the right hymns. The basics of the Gospel were preached, but it was all about walking the aisle, shaking the Preacher’s hand, repeating a canned prayer and getting dunked in the ornate, marble baptistry. With “Once Saved, Always Saved,” as a core doctrine, what you did after that was relatively unimportant. A strict moral code was taught but more from the Masonic point of view than the Gospel. The thrust being that you need to live right because it is good for your country, society and your community, and living right will make you healthy, wealthy and wise.

It was always assumed that if you had walked an aisle, shaken the preacher’s hand, repeated the prayer and got dunked, you were going to Heaven… No one dared question that formula.

Some of the old men in the church had fought in World War One. Most of the adult men had fought in World War Two and or Korea. The young men were going off to Vietnam and returning, often in a box. No matter what the truth about Vietnam, Korea or any other war, if you were a Christian, you supported America, the Flag and the latest war. The most ungodly and unchristian thing a young person could do was to question America. They probably never said it but we all knew that America was the Kingdom of God and God was an American.

The Methodists could lose their salvation, but they too thought that God was an American. The Presbyterians knew that God was an American and a Presbyterian… We all could agree that to be a good American was very important and that if America did it, it was God’s will and God’s way.

On the Fourth of July, the National Guard Color Guard would march the American Flag down the Aisle and we would all stand and sing the National Anthem as they stood at attention, flags in hand… The Pride was palpable…

At Christmas, the children would perform a passion play, baby Jesus in the manger, under the Christmas Tree…

For Easter, we would hold a Sunrise Service. That was followed, at Sunday School time, by an Easter Egg Hunt for the kids and then the 11:00 Church Service where we would all sing “Hallelujah, He arose!” at the top of our lungs…

Then, I went off and became Pentecostal… I spoke in tongues, prophesied and saw real miracles… But they were still sold on the America thing, Christmas Trees and the Easter Bunny. More than that, they were frightened and legalistic to the max. I could tell how spiritual a man was by looking at his wife. If she was ugly, wore dresses to the floor, kept her head covered and wore neither jewelry nor makeup… that was a Holy and Righteous man!

The question that continually surfaced was, “If I get in an accident and I say a bad word and I die before I can repent, will I go to Hell?” Not pleasant people to be around…

Over the last twenty years, I have watched Pentecostals go through a great change. They started a rapid flight away from legalism. Unfortunately, they passed the truth going ninety miles an hour and slid right into what some have called “Sloppy Agape.” The current, approved term is Hyper-Grace. This is a politicly-correct religion… You NEVER preach on sin or call for repentance. You preach on the importance of accepting everybody and offending nobody. Scriptures to be read and sermons to be preached are carefully scrutinized. If there is any way that a verse could offend anybody, it is not read. If there is an offensive phrase or word in a sermon, it is scratched out and never spoken. Only Happy Verses and Happy sermons are allowed.

It no longer matters what you wear. As a Sailor, a lifetime ago, I saw Pole Dancers better dressed than some of the young ladies in church…

Altar-Calls are for Happy Prophecy, Blessing and Miracles, NEVER for repentance or salvation.

But still, the lie of American Patriotism pervades the American Church. You cannot be a Good Christian if you are not a strong patriot. You cannot have a cross unless it is draped with a flag…

President Trump must be from God… America and the Kingdom of God are one and the same… God is American and Jesus lounges around Heaven in red, white and blue pajamas… Surely Trump is a Prince, sent from God to save God’s Country, in her sin, and grant her time and freedom to sin some more…

I see that attitude, in posts and comments on my Facebook Page…

Jesus asked, “When the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on earth?” (Luke 18:8) I am leaning more and more to the negative reply… “No, none or very little.”

If you just go back, with a prayerful attitude, and throwing out everything you were taught, read the Book, you will find that it is very simple and straight forward… I think that you will discover that America is not the Kingdom of God but rather Babylon. Jesus is nothing like what you always thought He was, and being a Christian has nothing at all to do with walking an aisle, shaking a Preacher’s hand, repeating a little prayer and getting dunked in a baptistry…

Not even an ornate, marble baptistry…

David…

ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED

OSAS is not really a doctrine as such, it is a Denominational Distinctive… a teaching taught with the intended end of convincing church members and congregants that their church is better than the church down the street…

Someone, yesterday, asked me if I would write on the subject of once saved, always saved… Okay, here goes…

Once Saved, Always Saved, is a cute and memorable handle for a Denominational Distinctive… We can reduce that to its initials and we will do so here… We will write OSAS because it is shorter and my fingers are tired.

OSAS is not really a doctrine as such, it is a Denominational Distinctive… a teaching taught with the intended end of convincing church members and congregants that their church is better than the church down the street and discouraging them from visiting the other churches in town… We, after all, have a “doctrine” that they do not believe! That clearly makes us better!!

Never mind that the other churches are telling their members that they are much better than that other church because they teach OSAS and we know that that is a false doctrine and it will send them to Hell but we will get to go to Heaven because we are smart enough not to believe that!!!!

The truth is that there are a good number of verses that, ripped out of context and presented in a list, would seem to say that you cannot lose your Salvation…

There are also many verses that, ripped out of context and presented in a list, would seem to say that you can lose your salvation…

So, if you are a Baptist Pastor, you make your special OSAS Bible Verse list and you teach it to your people, assuring them that once they shake the Pastor’s hand and repeat that little canned prayer, they are on their way to Heaven and God himself can’t keep them out.

If, on the other hand, you are a Methodist Pastor or Church of God or any other denomination in competition with the Baptists down the street, you make up your list of all the verses that speak of losing your salvation and you teach that to your people…

But wait! What if someone finds those “OTHER” verses in their Bible and starts asking questions?

Not to fear, over the last couple of hundred years, people in your denomination, have thought much on the subject and they have come up with canned little answers that explain why none of those verses on the other Pastor’s list really mean what they say… You can just look in your books or maybe even use Google and (WOW!) There are all the answers you need to confuse your poor congregant and keep him in his pew…

Do you want to know the real, honest God’s truth on the matter?????

Your Salvation is not nearly so secure as that OSAS Pastor wants you to believe and no it does not really become a done deal when you walk an aisle, shake the preacher’s hand and repeat that little prayer… not even if you say “AMEN!” real loud and get dunked in front of everybody… A faith that does not change you, will not save you!

On the other hand, Your Salvation is a whole lot more secure than that Old Fashioned Pentecostal Preacher told you… You do not have to be afraid that you might be in an accident, say a bad word and die before you can repent!!! You were not saved because you stopped sinning and you are not lost every time you sin…That is stupid on steroids, as I like to say!!!!!

Your salvation depends on grace and faith… Are you still believing? Has your belief changed your life? Are you still under grace? Are you led by the Spirit? Good news, you will go to Heaven when you die!!!!!

We have to get past all those stupid things our pastors told us just to keep us going to their church and keep us out of the one down the street…

Read the Word for yourself and THINK and PRAY… It helps, really!

David…