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ON THE PRETRIB RAPTURE

This post discusses the belief in resurrection and the return of Christ, contrasting scriptural references from Paul, Jesus, and John about the order of resurrection and rapture. It challenges the PreTribulation position, arguing that this belief lacks direct scriptural support and emphasizes relying on contextual interpretation rather than selective readings.

  1. Paul wrote that we who remain alive shall not precede those who have died in Christ.
  2. Jesus said that the dead will be raised “after the tribulation.”
  3. John, in the book of revelation places “the first resurrection” after the tribulation.

1 Thessalonians 4:

The Coming of the Lord

13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. 15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord,[d] that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God.

And the dead in Christ will rise first.

 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Matthew 24:

The Coming of the Son of Man

29 “Immediately after the tribulation

of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and

they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 20:

4 (…) They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.

This is the first resurrection. 

So, the PreTrib believer denies that saying that yes, that is true, but we know there is a secret resurrection and the rapture before the first resurrection and before the tribulation…

Pushed for Scriptural proof, they provide selected verses (and pieces of verses) from the above quoted passages and add a bunch of verses that say God is good… When someone points out that none of the verses they have trimmed, reinterpreted and quoted without context actually say that there will be a PreTrib rapture, they tell us that we must read between the lines and understand that while God never said so, He certainly implied that the rapture would happen before the tribulation…

And then, they question our Christianity, our faith, and our sanity because we lack the gnosis needed in order to believe in a PreTrib Rapture…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

Why the Pretrib Rapture Fairytale?

Western Christians fear the Tribulation in ways that would baffle a Christian suffering persecution in the real world…

WHY AND HOW?

For many years, a very real website offered $5,000 US to anyone in the world who could produce a Scripture that spoke of a Pretrib Rapture. After more than a decade, they shut down the page with their money still in their pockets.

For almost as many years, I have asked for the same Scripture. I have received many Scriptures from people who told me that they were the answer to my request. Most of the Scriptures spoke to the goodness of God and a couple, at least on the surface, out of context and cleverly misinterpreted, almost seemed to support the idea…

Of course, when you read the paragraph before that verse and the paragraph after that verse, it becomes quite obvious that it says no such thing…

I cannot count the number of people who have told me that if I understood that God is good, the Tribulation is bad, and that we will follow the dead and ascend to meet Christ at his return… even though God never really spoke of a PreTrib Rapture, I would understand that He really meant to but that it somehow escaped his attention…

How did Satan sell this childish and silly doctrine? He gave the idea to a Jesuit Priest, who, writing under a pen name and pretending to be a converted Jew, put it in a book, written in Latin.

He then got a copy of the book into the hands of the very first Pentecostal preacher in England, who translated it into English and fell in love with the idea.

He then sent two Americans to England, C. I. Scofield, a would be Bible scholar, and D. L. Moody, an uneducated shoe salesman turned Evangelist.

Scofield twisted the Scripture and put the idea of a pretrib rapture in his Study Bible as if it were Bible truth.

D. L. Moody put it into his sermons, and terrified sinners flooded the altars… Suddenly, he was the most famous Evangelist in America. When pastors and other evangelists saw the numbers, they bought the doctrine… Biblical or not, it filled the pews and the offering plates…

More than that, sinners, terrified that they might be caught sinning at Christ’s sudden return and face the Tribulation, caught the dream…

Fear and wishful thinking are powerful motivational tools… Ask any evangelist…

It also helped that Christians in America had faced no (zero) persecution in several centuries… You fear what you do not know… You fear the Tribulation in ways that would baffle a Christian suffering persecution in the real world…

But that begs the question, why?

Very, very simple… If you can sell the church on the idea that they will escape the Tribulation, they will stumble into the Tribulation, frightened and unprepared… The chances that they will accept and worship the Antichrist and take his mark are increased ten thousand fold… You can rob God Almighty of the souls of the people He died to save…

When Americans tell me about the rapture, they tell me how bad the Tribulation will be. They might even suffer and be forced to die for Jesus!!!!! A loving God would never allow an American Christian to suffer like that! Yes, Paul and so many more suffered and died for Jesus… BUT THEY WEREN’T AMERICANS!!!!!

JESUS IS NOT RETURNING FOR A SINFUL, NASTY, UGLY, MESSED UP BRIDE, A BRIDE CONVINCED THAT HE DIED TO MAKE THEM RICH, HEALTHY AND COMFY IN BABYLON!!!!

BRIDE, MEET THE REFINERS FIRE!

DO NOT BE FOOLED…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

Lucifer’s Light: The Reality Behind Trump’s Rule

There is a dichotomy regarding Trump, he is either a savior or a deceptive figure representing Lucifer. You must not view him as a typical president, as doing so perpetuates a dangerous delusion. You are encouraged to maintain faith amid this spiritual challenge.

Trump is either God or the Antichrist…

You must decide what you will believe, but you cannot allow yourself to see him as simply another President, that is not an option.

This is supernatural…

This is the oldest game in the world… From Dark to Light… The Shining.

I will tell you that this is a devilish con job… You can ignore me, or argue with me, or shout from the housetops, telling the world that I am an evil liar…

None of that will change the facts… Trump is a Messiah, a Savior… He comes in splendor and light. He comes to save us!

But this is not the light of the God of Heaven… This is Lucifer posing as an Angel of Light… This is moving from the black night of Satan to the bright morning of Lucifer… This is a game, and if you believe it, you are damned…

But you have free will… You may choose to believe that God Almighty has sent a hard-faced, blasphemous, liar to save America in her sin, without repentance, and empower her to continue in her sin, raising her up so that she can rule the world… Feel free… I will not stop you.

This is the delusion, sent from God, to cause those who love pleasure more than they love righteousness to believe the lie.

This is the deception that threatens even the Elect of God…

I have always known that the remnant would be small. The remnant is tiny beyond belief… If you understand my words, congratulations, you are part of that tiny group of Christians who love Jesus more than they love life itself…

Sleep well tonight, get up in the morning, pick up that ugly, splintered, wooden cross and keep dragging it up that hill… There is Glory on the other side of Calvary…

For the rest of you, please enjoy your moment… bask in the glorious light of Lucifer… Applaud and uphold his Messiah… This is your time to shine!

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

GREENLAND: The Island, The Movie, Apophis, Ronald Reagan, and Trump’s Proposal..

Put it all together… The movie as predictive programming, and Trump’s insistence that we must purchase the island, The Scripture, and the instance of scientists and Astrophysicists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, insisting that despite NASA’s revised figures, Apophis will come close enough to earth to do major damage…

GREENLAND: The Island, The Movie, Apophis, Ronald Reagan, and Trump’s Proposal…

“The United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity.”
(Donald J. Trump)

Since 1867, the United States has considered, and made, several attempts to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, as it did with the Danish West Indies in 1917. While Greenland remains an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark, a 1951 treaty gives the United States much control over its “defense”.

Last week, Donald Trump appointed his new ambassador to Denmark: Ken Howery, a co-founder of PayPal and the ambassador to Sweden during Trump’s first administration. Making the announcement on Truth Social, Trump’s social-media platform, the US president-elect declared that ‘for purposes of National Security and Freedom throughout the World, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity’

The movie “Greenland” follows the story of John Garrity (played by Gerard Butler), his estranged wife Allison (Morena Baccarin), and their young son Nathan. As a planet-killing comet hurtles toward Earth, the Garrity family embarks on a perilous journey to find sanctuary. John receives a text from Homeland Security, indicating that he and his family are among the few selected to be escorted to a top-secret base in Greenland. They must navigate through chaos and lawlessness as panic sets in among the populace, and they face numerous obstacles and close-quarters fight scenes. The family is eventually reunited and makes a desperate and last-minute flight to a possible safe haven, racing against time to survive the global apocalypse.

We now know that Apophis will, quite likely, take out 1/3 of the earth on Friday, March 13, 2029. Here science and Scripture agree…

Revelation 8:8 The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.

Put it all together… The movie as predictive programming, and Trump’s insistence that we must purchase the island, The Scripture, and the instance of scientists and Astrophysicists like Neil DeGrasse Tyson, insisting that despite NASA’s revised figures, Apophis will come close enough to earth to do major damage…

Add Ronald Reagan once telling the United Nations that a common threat from outer-space would unite the whole world…

AND, should it miss in 2029, the projected course still calls for a direct hit in 2036…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

Challenging Accepted Church Doctrines

A critique of the rigid adherence to denominational doctrines by Protestants, Evangelicals, and similar groups, highlighting the tendency to defend beliefs without seeking true understanding. The discussion emphasizes the contrast between accepted interpretations of scripture and the actual teachings of the Bible, urging readers to reconsider their acceptance of dogma over truth.

This is as great a picture as could exist when it comes to explaining what I have been trying to say to protestants and evangelicals…

Defending The Doctrine Of Peter As The First Pope

Before you laugh at a book defending the Papacy of Saint Peter, ask yourself how many stupid and unsupportable doctrines, accepted by your church but rejected by the rest of Christ’s Church, you are determined to defend at all costs…

I would dare to say that, among my followers, there are very few who would stand up and defend the doctrine that declares that Peter was the first pope… Nonetheless, the photo posted here is of a book by a man who, having believed the doctrine, seeks to defend it…

You may laugh at that, but Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Protestants, and Charismatics all do exactly the same thing… We never seem to search for truth… we simply assume that the founders of our little group discovered “THE TRUTH”! We accept their “truth”, as being the “Ultimate Truth”, and we will defend that “truth” to the death…

Therefore, when we find a verse or passage that seems to line up with our accepted “truth”, we rejoice… We memorize those verses, put those verses on beautiful plaques and decorate our walls with them… we meditate on them, study them, and share them…

But, how many times have you seen a decretive poster bearing Matthew 24:9?
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake.”

When we find a verse or passage that would seem to violate our accepted truth, we feel shocked and threatened… If we are no more than a church member, we will tell ourselves that such things are too great for us, go on and try to forget it. If we are a ThD professor at a prestigious denominational seminary, we will attempt, at all costs, to interpret that passage in such a way as to force it to agree with our accepted “truth”.

Many thousands of doctoral dissertations have been written in defense of accepted doctrine and denominational truth. The people who write these papers have no interest whatsoever in discovering the truth…

The Truth will set you free…

Accepted, exclusive, denominational truth will bind you tightly and imprison you forever…

How many verses and Bible passages have you cleverly reinterpreted, twisted, ground up and pounded until they fit your “truth”?

Scripture is ultimate truth. The doctrinal “truths” of your denomination are built on assumptions and presuppositions, they must never be blindly accepted as unquestionable truth…

David…

Apophis and the Antichrist: A Prognostication

The scenario presented imagines Donald Trump as the Antichrist during the end times. It portrays a timeline where he initially appears as a savior, leading to a false sense of peace before revealing his true identity. The narrative suggests widespread calamities, Christian persecution, and a cataclysmic event involving Apophis by 2029.

Possible:

Let us call this scenario neither optimistic nor pessimistic, simply probable…

Whatever you believe, let us assume, for the purposes of our little thesis, that Donald J. Trump is the Antichrist, we are in the end times, the Tribulation has or soon will start, Apophis will strike in 2029, and the return of Jesus is imminent. If these things are not true, this scenario would seem much less likely.

So many see the Antichrist as coming on the scene as a terrible man and his coming as bringing instant death and destruction. Quite the contrary, 2 Thessalonians tells us that he comes on the scene with false miracles and all the power of Hell. He is not, at the start, an overwhelming dictator, rather he is a hero, a messiah, a savior…

It seems that Christians are predicting that everything is going to fall apart and we are all going to die in 2025. I find that highly unlikely. it is three and one half years after his inauguration that he shows himself for who he really is…

I think that perhaps as late as the end of 2026, Trump will maintain his American Hero status… He will cow the world into subservience and life in America will appear to be headed back to the innocence and abundance of a 1950’sAmerica… The Christian Patriots will look on those of us who have called Trump the Antichrist and call us fools…

Peace and prosperity will reign, Israel will be divided, a Palestinian State proclaimed and a magnificent temple built on the Temple Mount… Daily sacrifices will be observed for the first time in 2,000 years.

The very close passing of Apophis will be admitted and the world will come together to fight this common enemy of all mankind. Trump will take the lead on the world stage. While he orchestrates disease, death and famine, he will appear to be fighting them. War and plague will diminish the world’s population… Still, Trump will be the hero fighting all of these enemies, taking control…

Bible believing Christians will not take the Trump Mark and the persecution will begin. Christian Patriots will stand in front of television cameras and flood social media with photos of the Trump Mark on their hands…

At some point, America will burn, Babylon will be destroyed… Trump will survive and move his New World Government to Israel. In the Fall of 2028, 42 months following his return to power, there will be a dedication service at the new Temple in Jerusalem… Trump will, at the ceremony, live on Worldwide Television, take his seat in the Holy Place, unveil an image of himself, and declare himself to be God Almighty…

It is on that day that Jew and Cultural Christian will finally figure out who he really is… It will be too late.

Then comes Apophis, the death of one third of every living thing on earth, and the Wrath of an angry God…

I am not claiming to be a prophet… This is a prognostication, not a prophecy… This is “Thus thinkith David”, not “Thus saith the Lord”

None the less, I do believe that this, likely with some modification, is what is about to play out on the world stage…

PRAY-THINK-PRAY

David…

The Devil’s Reign: What Revelation Teaches Us About Our Future

The Good news is that, from an eternal perspective, the saints win…

The bad news is that from the perspective of this world and this life, they lose.

If I told you that the Devil and his messiah will make war with the saints of God and that he will win, many of you would call me a liar…

That is because you neither read nor understand your Bible…

Those of you raised on the Happy Gospel are much to be pitied… You have no idea of what has happened, nor what is about to happen… You only know the Happy verses and the Happy Promises… the other 90% of the Scriptures remain a great mystery to you…

The Good news is that, from an eternal perspective, the saints win…

The bad news is that from the perspective of this world and this life, they lose.

There remains a full number of martyrs yet to be slain…
Revelation 6:10 They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

Prison, suffering and death await the Saints of God…
Revelation 13:9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

10 If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

Satan is the god of this world… Adam gave him that title and God honors that title. Satan will, for a brief time, become the absolute ruler of this earth… his beast and his messiah will reign unopposed.
Revelation 13:7b He was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation.

The idea that Christ will rapture the church before that time is the Devil’s dream doctrine… the less prepared you are, the more likely that you will fall and that the devil will get your eternal soul…

Yes, we go to Heaven. Yes, we return to reign with him. In the meantime, prepare your heart so that you will endure to the end and be saved…

I do not care what you learned in church, Bible College, or Seminary… Jesus said that it is he who endures to the end who will be saved…. I know that the words of Jesus contradict the presumptions of your doctrine… Live with it!

All Hell is about to break out on earth… You, my Christian friend, are an enemy of the New World Order… You will face the consequences born by those on the losing side… You will be given the opportunity to renounce Christ and live…

If your hope is in this earth, you are damned… If your hope is in Heaven with God, You will live eternally with him.

While the false prophets are still promising victory in this world, remember these words…

Jeremiah 14:14 But the Lord said to me, “These prophets are prophesying a lie in My name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a false vision, worthless divination, the deceit of their own minds.

And…

Lamentations 2:14
Your prophets saw visions for you
that were empty and deceptive;
they did not reveal your guilt
and so restore your fortunes.
They saw oracles for you
that were empty and misleading.

PRAY THINK PRAY

David…

Enduring Tribulation: Finding Strength in Faith

God never takes people out of tribulation, He goes through it with them…

God never takes people out of tribulation,
He goes through it with them…
You will escape through tribulation.

Noah went through the flood,
Escaping death
But remaining on earth.

Daniel escaped death through the Lion’s Den
He was not raptured
Before being thrown into the den.

The Three Hebrew Boys
Went through the fire,
But Jesus was with them in the fire…

Israel was saved in and through
The wilderness,
Not out of the wilderness…

God is not going to change
How He does things to help YOU
Escape the tribulation!

You escape eternal damnation
By enduring.
Pray for strength to endure!

HE WHO ENDURES
TO THE END
SHALL BE SAVED

THINK!

David…

IF HARRIS HAD WON…

Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

If Harris had won, it would have been much better for the church…

Not that life would have been better… The economic collapse and loss of freedom would have been rapid and terrible…

With Trump, life in America will get better in an almost miraculous manner and at an awesome pace… If you are in it for the cushy comfort, Trump is your candidate… For a very short time.

Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

It is worse for Christians and the church because Trump can deceive, and has deceived millions of Christians. Trump’s victory has already lulled most of the church back to sleep… “No worries now, our new messiah has won, America is safe, and my retirement is secured!!!”

Trump possesses every single biblical qualification for the Antichrist… His lies are believed, without question, by Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus everywhere… Whatever your religion, Trump is your hero!

I have articulated, in a hundred articles, and a thousand Facebook posts, exactly why Trump fits the role of Antichrist to a “T”. The primary reason being his supernatural ability to deceive Christians and cause them to turn a blind eye to all of his sins and weaknesses…

It is very much like the one who keeps a kidnaped kid quiet by feeding him candy… American Christians are so sold on America and their cushy lifestyles that not even the threat of Hellfire can shake their faith in anyone who would promise to save the nation and keep them from testing, trials, suffering, and death…

Trump is popular for exactly the same reason Benny Hinn became a billionaire. Benny promised money, healing and prosperity. Trump offers money, freedom, prosperity, peace, and a life of leisure… Christians line up, begging for the bait and swallowing the hook with great gusto!

No, life under Harris would not have been cushy… but Christians who find resisting the Devil to be natural and easy, suck up to Lucifer with eager anticipation….

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

David…

IF I WERE THE DEVIL

In Paul Harvey’s famous broadcast, “IF I WERE THE DEVIL,” the hypothetical strategy of the Devil is discussed. In this updated script, the Devil would exploit political divisions, create a false savior figure, and ultimately deceive and dominate the world. This figure would be revered by Republicans, Christians, Jews, and the Right, leading to a global reign marked by deception, destruction, and the usurpation of power. If the Devil were to have a plan, this would be it.

“IF I WERE THE DEVIL”

This is Paul Harvey’s famous broadcast, “IF I WERE THE DEVIL”. I think the Devil paid attention… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPE8u5ONls


Today, If I were the Devil, I would look back and learn from the Jesus Christ Story… I would raise up evil to a fevered pitch and blame it on Democrats, Leftists, Liberals, Communists, Jews, Arabs and Mohammad.

At the same time, I would lift up a savior on the Right… a man who would be seen as a hero by Republicans, Christians, Jews and the Rightwing arm of the American Eagle. I would see that while unlike Jesus, he would be fabulously wealthy, he would, like Jesus, be seen as a victim, a suffering servant. I would have him wrongly tried and convicted. Unable to raise the dead, I could not have him crucified, but shot in the ear… that, I could arrange.

This Messiah would be seen as a messiah by Israel… They would name towns, and railroad stations for this messiah. Their authors would call him “The King of Israel” and “The second coming of God”. They would hold elaborate ceremonies, crown him “King of Jerusalem” and give him a bejeweled crown worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. I would have Israel present him with a solid silver Menorah, and place a life-sized, gold-plated copy of the Ark of the Covenant in his house. I would have them identify him as “Messiah Ben Yosef”.

I would have him promise to protect the church, save Christians, save their nation, and maintain their cushy Babylonian lifestyle. I would surround him with Christian Patriots, and have artists produce hundreds of paintings of him as if he were Jesus Christ or God Almighty…

Soon, Christians and Jews, around the world, even the prime Minister of Hungary, would be speaking of him as “The Only Hope for the world”.

He would be opposed, violently, all the way to the election and the election itself would be a “cliff hanger”. He would win, and having won, with the help of both Jews and Christians, he would take absolute power over his nation, and then the world. He would cause the Temple to be built in Jerusalem, then he would sit in it and call himself God. He would deceive and destroy the Jews, and he would then make war against the saints and overcome them. He would be given authority to rule over every tribe, tongue, and nation….

If I were the Devil, that would be my plan…

David…